STI 4代 4年, WRX A/T 7代 13年，唔識颷車，未壞過 turbo.

大家好，小弟未曾玩過掃把佬，最近物色緊 17年打後的 Facelift WRX CVT。
想問吓大家，WRX 是否跟一般日本車一樣，打理容易？我其實最驚個 turbo 會不會好麻煩....
Thanks

98年買4代 29.8萬.E+咁貴買唔起.

google forester 爆震。

＞ forester xt 副偈台灣有鑊氣

How? Any detail?

forester xt 副偈台灣有鑊氣。

WRX SIT 2014
Sti等佢真係落fa20dit 果陣先買啦。。。47萬ej257一定唔買 x 2

M235個價已連泊車cam. M235係2系最高級別, 大部份option已跟車.

through load system, 香港地又無長途車揸, 有無成日坐坐下車去尾箱拎野.
adaptive head light, 香港地週街都係街燈, bi-xeon仲唔夠?
adaptive m suspension, aggressive ching覺得原裝m sport唔夠, 去買PSS10好過啦!

fa20應該有大把改進空間,慢慢進化無問題的...

正如十幾年前gc8既ej207進化到08年ver既ej207,引擎強度及威力一樣大幅增加...gc8年代既ej207其實一樣易冧,馬力powerband不足,改裝承受力亦不足.....但去到08年ver,低扭至高轉都有,承受力強...原裝308匹,原裝機器已經可以承受接近400匹輸出,加埋套4驅+dccd+vsc,講真,唔差lor...

我覺得既然fa20未成熟,不如唔好出新款住啦..依家11代變左4不像......睇死佢過兩年中途就轉新engine... :p

@h9713325
Probably different design with the FA engine which turns out not as durable as previous EJ

See here
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=e4abbb6b86adf15975b09e812e7a2f90&t=2634902&page=2

Post #35
"I had a chance to talk with STI development team guy in Osaka Motor Show in 2013. He told that FA20 DIT doesn't suit well for motor sports.
Also, FA20 DIT has been rumored that over revolution can easily damage the motor. We believe this vulnerability for over revolution must be one of the reason why JDM WRX S4, that will be used for circuit track sports driving, couldn't have 6MT. You know, CVT + ECU combionation can easily manage to stop over revolution"

Also post #41
"Nothing to do with di. Something is inherently weaker about the fa at high revs. The cvt "benefit" is the ability to sense an over-rev, even a mechanical one, and kick it into neutral, or whatever the cvt equivalent of that is"

＞ dit+強勁低扭係順應市場潮流,係時間問題遮
Agree, flat torque band and fuel economy are 市場潮流, therefore it's necessary to improve the FA series engine before an even more robust version can come out

BTW how many years have the FA/FB been in the market? And how many for the EJ/EZ?

The EJ is a very mature engine esp. after so many generations (one MotorImage rep even said it's "a very good engine"), so it's safe to stick to that on the STI before something even better comes out (and worry about fuel economy later)

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easy to over-rev and damage engine if tuned at full spec (295-300hp)
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如果轉錯波導致over-rev...可以講就算ej207或ej205,一樣會有engine damage..正確操作又點會有over-rev


So you get to choose either depending on your driving style and attributes, w/o much output difference between the two
Want AT? -＞ S4 (300hp)
Want MT? -＞ STI (308hp)
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但係成條扭力curve都唔同.....唔可以單睇maximum output單一數字......

dit+強勁低扭係順應市場潮流,係時間問題遮

@joeyd
The JDM S4 has been long regarded as Levorg sedan version
If you know Levorg's performance attributes you can predict the S4 would behave as well...

BTW S4 also has electronic handbrake (a NO-NO for WRX series IMHO) as opposed to export version w/mechanical handbrake, as well as rear vented disc brake (export version only has solid cisc)

Meanwhile, exclusive use of CVT is likely to protect engine from over-revving
Some local auto press like it, others do NOT and think Audi's dual clutch 7AT is better and more responsive

Speaking of MB, any thoughts on the GLA? Especially, the GLA250 4WD, nicely equipped at $650-720k (base ~$500k)

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題外話.. 岩岩見到..
http://unwire.hk/2014/08/28/subaru-wrx-s4-japan-only/life-tech/auto/
日本版真係有改進..可惜唔係STI..
仲要CVT波箱..最憎CVT..即係短期唔駛諗..

我揸過今代A1,A3,A5..有D悶..唔諗AUDI了..
仲揸過今代BMW316iA,BMW真係幾時都咁好揸雖然唔快..
BENZ 新 C CLASS 去睇睇先..

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@joeyd
Buts M235i still costs $650k at base, still more than STI but also has less capable footwork

Even if you minus just the Nav Pro option the vehicle would still be in the $700k range (yes you'll want to keep the rear camera, improved suspension, adaptive lights and trunk-thru)

So STI is still a decent choice as long as fuel economy is too much of a concern

@h9713325
Note that markets like AU and US have base WRX in 6MT, easy to over-rev and damage engine if tuned at full spec (295-300hp)
But you just can't market different engine tunes according to transmission (300/AT, 268/MT)
You want the better? Then go for STI w/305hp, no question

JDM S4 and STI marketing work in JP since the former has been further tamed and marketed as some everyday sports sedan w/good fuel economy, as opposed to STI
(In other words, more Levorg-like)

So you get to choose either depending on your driving style and attributes, w/o much output difference between the two
Want AT? -＞ S4 (300hp)
Want MT? -＞ STI (308hp)


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我多數盡量唔加option

M235架車650K遮, M/T同價, 下下學位ching 買車dream config打爆option, 50萬C250都話加20幾萬option, 仲駛買車gei?!

香港地買車你會唔會加三四皮買廠Navi option?

800k 又太多。
睇黎又要再諗諗其他。

我估sti有機會中途轉fa20進化版engine....

另外,港版wrx普通版downtune到268匹,應該唔關engine負荷事,只係港版sti用緊舊ej257 300匹engine,如果wrx用fa20新引擎,照樣300匹+強勁低扭,根本強過ej257,佢驚sti賣唔去遮.....日本仔就係咁自視過高,市場競爭咁大,仲玩downtune,仲要發生係部標榜性能既車款度...膠膠地...

比$800k仲買235, 買S4 avant啦

@joeyd
Except price is a concern
STI is under $500k decently equipped, but a matching M235i is $807k with full options and still you'll need to get the Drexler LSD yourself