- #53 [Joeyd], 21-03-17 17:21
- #52 [dna_oscar], 21-03-17 17:13
https://hk.appledaily.com/finance/20210317/7S552GP5NZEXLPZ6EPA5FHZT3M
華爾街戰線|22歲法律系Reddit仔「all in」GME 80萬本賺逾800萬元 「牛市個個係股神」
「美版連登」Reddit股票討論區Wallstreetbets(WSB)追捧的GameStop(GME),令一眾沽空機構被「挾淡倉」,股價由1月低位約20美元,一度升至400美元,最高更逼近500美元,及後急跌,散戶哀鴻遍野。不過,《蘋果》聯絡到一名年僅22歲、居於香港的「Reddit仔」贏家Juun Lee,成功透過投資GME賺到800萬港元,雖然當時買入經過很多分析,惟他坦言當中有運氣成份,「Everyone is a genius in boom market(牛市個個都係股神)」。
GME贏家:呢件事仲未完
Juun為土生士長香港人,在國際學校讀書,其後在城市大學修讀法律系,另外一個身份是在一間社交媒體做兼職,很早便因喜歡玩League of legends而留意到美國討論區Reddit,後來更在2年前開始瀏覽r/WallStreetBets。Juun因為著名投資者Michael Burry的緣故,早於去年6月已留意到GME,當時r/WallStreetBets已開始討論GME的基本面和估值等,惟他仍未大手購入。
大型上市寵物電商Chewy(CHWY)聯合創辦人Ryan Cohen在1月初加入GME董事會,GME的股價亦在今年1月升至20美元水平,他就在當時大手買入,以及在股價升至38美元時賣出其他持倉,全副身家「all in」GME,直言「(股價)愈上對呢個trade嘅信心愈大」。他總共買入共4,000股正股,以及20張認購期權,當股價在1月27日升至347.5美元時,他坦言當時「太大壓力」,因此在約300美元沽出所有持股,「想唔諗呢件事」,總共賺逾800萬港元,不過期間他也有做Day trade,蝕逾10萬港元左右。
GME在2月中曾跌至40.69美元,截至3月8日收市報194.5美元,反彈約3.78倍。Juun亦有參與其中,因為在賣出持股後,他也有留意事態發展,在瀏覽相關資訊後,「結論係呢件事仲未完」,因此在40美元水平以1月所賺取的利潤再購入,認為「又係一個好嘅投資」。
「當一announce唔畀再買,就全部嘢賣哂」
GME在1月急升時,受到傳媒廣泛報道,Juun指自己在去年8、9月分析時已預計會成為全球焦點,更和家人表示,「呢件事情會做套荷里活戲」,但當愈來愈多人提及GME時,他雖然早已預計,但坦言當時很大壓力,「有啲驚嘅感覺,有啲辛苦」,因為無時無刻在思考當時應該沽或持有,「我諗係成世人最辛苦嘅兩個禮拜」。
多間外國券商曾在GME熱炒時限制散戶買入,Juun指雖然很多散戶對這個做法有不同意見,但他個人則相對放鬆,「終於完喇件事」,「佢(Robinhood)一announce(宣佈)唔畀再買,就全部嘢賣哂」。
部份「Reddit仔」買入GameStop是因為有情意結,Juun指自己純粹希望自己能參與其中,賺錢反而得不到太多滿足感,「我參與呢個可以講係historical moment,個滿足感係多過我賺呢筆錢」,因為他人生目標不是賺很多錢,但他暫時未有確實方向,明年畢業的他指「等完咗呢件事睇吓想做啲咩」,而自己亦同意YOLO(You Only Live Once)的人生觀,笑言「做嘢做大佢」。
「allin」CCL、DKNG、BABA call option
Juun的投資之路源自Youtube,最初看一些講解如何買期權的影片,因為期權是「高危啲,但係高reward嘅投資工具」,看完兩三段關於期權的影片後,就開始「擺錢入去炒股票,你話學投資,輸錢係最大嘅lesson」,因為輸錢可以有機會檢討自己的不足,「我係做嚟學嘅」。他曾因買Tesla(TSLA)的認沽期權而單日輸逾10萬元,「嗰日都痛苦嘅,就停咗炒股兩星期」,他嘗試用正面的心態看待事情,「輸咗呢啲錢,但我學到呢啲嘢」,所得經驗對今次GME一役中有幫助,令自己學識摒棄不安的情緒,單從事實和數據下最後決定。
Juun「all in」GME之前,曾先後分別「all in」遊輪股Carnival Corporation (CCL) 、體育博彩股DraftKings(DKNG)和阿里巴巴(BABA)以賺取本金。他首先在去年3月CCL跌至每股6美元時「allin」6萬元本金,升至本金去到20萬元時賣出,中間亦有做Day trade,再抽走部份利潤在DKNG每股35美元時投資9萬元,在每股45美元時賣出,之後在螞蟻上市失敗後,BABA跌至222美元時買入認購期權,「其實係oversell咗阿里巴巴嘅」,升至250美元時售出,多次投資共贏得85萬港元,並成為「all in」GME的資本。
談及Reddit以及r/WallStreetBets的文化,Juun表示Reddit不單只有r/WallStreetBets這個投資版,也有其他版面,例如r/stocks和r/investing等,但每個版面也有自己獨有文化。r/WallStreetBets的用戶相對較年輕,他們的交易相對較高風險,「佢哋無論輸錢贏錢都覺得係搞笑嘅」,他自己亦被這種文化所吸引。除有趣的內容外,也有準確的投資見解,「當中都有好嘅投資advise」。
Juun在投資的學習對象是著名投資者Bill Ackman,但他坦言散戶難以複製投資大師的買賣策略,「因為佢哋已經賺咗好大筆錢」,認為難以「搬紙過字」。他在選股時有一套過程,「有/ r / wallstreetbets係其中一個,Twitter、Youtube,互聯網嘅資訊我都會睇哂」。以Twitter為例,只要輸入一個股票代號,就可以了解當刻全世界的人對該股票的看法。他希望了解不同人對單一股票或事情的看法,再考慮是否買入。經過GME一役後,以後的投資會趨向保守,考慮投資以收息為主的股票,正留意房地產信託基金(REITs),再用一部份本金再作高風險投資,不會再「allin」單一股票。
GME一役過後,Juun坦言想睇吓真係興趣係乜嘢」,表示自己有較多自由,可以選擇自己將來的路,現時正努力探索,「可能Youtube,我依家鍾意捉象棋」,「同錢無拏棱嘅嘢,睇吓我想唔想喺嗰啲位置發展」。Juun指自己將來未必會花太多時間投資,「可能會輕鬆啲,做吓其他嘢」。
最後修改時間: 2021-03-17 17:13:50 - #51 [Joeyd], 21-03-06 22:10
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- #50 [ovator], 21-02-20 10:22
Payment for order flow was one of the root causes of the Gamestop saga.
Ken Griffins also admitted to order flow payment factor raised by the senator, Brad Sherman.
最後修改時間: 2021-02-20 10:26:35 - #49 [Joeyd], 21-02-19 23:02
隻歌。XDDD. 勁賤
- #48 [Seagull], 21-02-19 01:41中國自助餐!同以前聽過啲工仔研究六合彩捉路一樣咁戇鳩,垃圾。
- #47 [ovator], 21-02-19 01:23
- #46 [Joeyd], 21-02-05 18:20唔吹水馬後炮又點keep自命中國畢菲特?
信佢老味。 - #45 [Kenny], 21-02-05 18:13信大六一成,一定失明。
一埸馬有十四隻,佢隻隻買哂,但話比你聽一注獨贏。你以為佢好叻,下次比錢等佢同你買..... 估下佢跑唔跑得岀呢? - #44 [parker75], 21-02-05 17:55沽出100張GME認購期權(naked call),本周五(2月5日)到期,行使價為800美元,每股將收約40美元的權金。他笑指,「人們瘋了嗎」,又稱「這麼大的事情,參與一下,留著紀念」。
按此計算,段永平可收到約40萬美元(約為312萬港元)的權金。但若GME股價升穿800美元,期權遭行權,損失將無上限。假設GME可達到1000美元,輸蝕將達到160萬美元(約為1250萬港元)。
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$53.33 @ 6:00pm 5th Feb 2021 Hong Kong time.
睇怕今晚好難升穿800美元........ - #43 [Chia], 21-02-05 14:27GME 將來必定是 Option 教科書的教材
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內地投資者段永平稱沽空GME 「Naked Short」百張期權
遊戲股GME 令散戶興奮,亦引起全球知名財金界人物注意。內媒《投中網》報道,內地知名投資人段永平上周六(30日)於社交網站雪球發文,稱自己在手上無貨的情況下,沽出100張GME認購期權(naked call),本周五(2月5日)到期,行使價為800美元,每股將收約40美元的權金。他笑指,「人們瘋了嗎」,又稱「這麼大的事情,參與一下,留著紀念」。
按此計算,段永平可收到約40萬美元(約為312萬港元)的權金。但若GME股價升穿800美元,期權遭行權,損失將無上限。假設GME可達到1000美元,輸蝕將達到160萬美元(約為1250萬港元)。報道稱,段永平發帖後,曾在留言區勸告其他網民不要效仿行為。
GME昨夜美股收報225美元,插水31%。根據段永平賬戶最新發言,他表示,「看來遊戲已經結束了」。
報道稱,段永平數年前身家已超過2000億元人民幣,相信即使作出短期高風險投資,對他而言只是「小賭怡情」。段永平因早期投資網易(9999)、拼多多等企業而知名,翻查資料,他與過去發言中多次表示自己信奉價值投資,亦有內媒稱他為「巴菲特的忠實信徒」。
記者:馬迪帆 - #42 [唔係阿化], 21-02-02 20:29玩完?
咁快平咗咁多倉?
GameStop挾淡倉|GME淡倉率降至50%以下 市前大跌25%見169美元
https://hk.appledaily.com/finance/20210202/IJGPDREFERFBVCFTLUYZU5QEIM/ - #41 [Chia], 21-01-31 14:58Ib letter to clients
沒講比唔比人買 果D股票 call option
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最後修改時間: 2021-01-31 15:06:37 - #40 [ovator], 21-01-31 14:53WSB BROS: stay strong and collapse the establishments. This is a movement that you'll be proud of for years to come.
There's nothing wrong with fighting against those who created so much pain, suffering, and tragedy in your life. Game on.
最後修改時間: 2021-01-31 15:01:28 - #39 [ovator], 21-01-31 14:43From someone with a "diamond hand"
"To WSB: you all are amazing. I imagine that I'm not the only one that this is personal for. I've read myself so many posts on what you guys went through during the '08 crash. Whether you're here for the gains, to stick it to the man as I am, or just to be part of a potentially market changing movement - thank you. Each and every one of you are the reason that we have this chance. I've never felt this optimistic about the future before. This is life changing amounts of money for so many of you, and to be part of a rare instance of a wealth distribution from the rich to the poor is just incredible. I love you all." - #38 [Chia], 21-01-31 13:40
https://webb-site.com/articles/gamestop.asp
How the GameStop game will stop
28 January 2021
Having spent some time perusing the crowd psychology at work in the so-called "short squeeze" of GameStop Corp (GME), their almost religious beliefs expressed in the echo chamber of the WallStreetBets Reddit page seem to run broadly as follows:
We know the stock is trading at many times its fair value, but we don't care because...
we are "hurting" big hedge funds which short stocks they think are overvalued and...
we're the little guys, so we are making money at the expense of the obscenely wealthy cabal that run hedge funds, the 0.1%, whom we blame for [insert socio-economic woes of your choice]. This is a "movement", a "financial revolution" and "we're gonna hit them where it hurts".
What most of the foot-soldiers in the Reddit Army don't seem to realise is that apart from transferring wealth to their superiors, with late entrants enriching early entrants as they exit the bubble, the new recruits are eventually going to enrich the final cohort of short-position holders when the bubble bursts.
The sum of all long positions minus all short positions is always 100%. For example, if the outstanding short positions are (as reported/estimated) 140%, then the long positions are 240%. A share can be lent and borrowed an unlimited number of times, each time expanding the long and short positions by 1 share when it is sold - it doesn't have "I am borrowed" written upon it. Even if some shares are withdrawn from the lending pool in circulation, the others can be relent. So buying stock isn't necessarily going to move the price as long as someone else is equally willing to sell it or short it. Theoretically then, a stock can be 1000% long and 900% short.
Yes, some short-sellers may have closed their positions, unable to withstand further losses, but others will always be willing to step in against an increasing price. Similarly, some early buyers have already taken their profits and quietly walked way. So how will the GameStop game stop, or end? Probably the same way most bubbles do. This is a zero-sum game, unless the company issues new stock. The further a stock price deviates from sensible values, the greater the temptation to sell, whether you are long or going short. Think of it as a helium balloon rising up through the atmosphere - it expands and eventually bursts, dropping its payload.
Those with the largest gains will quietly cash in first, particularly if it represents a life-changing, massively-overweight position for them, absorbing the last foolish money to buy in, and as the momentum reverses, the whole thing will rapidly crash. So, we have news for the Reddit Army: you're not necessarily hurting short-sellers as a group. The final short-holders, if any, will win their bets. The only thing for sure is that you are enriching the early leaders of your army, some of the loudest people on your site, at the expense of everyone else, long or short. "HODL" is their rallying cry - but the pilots will bail out. "This is your captain speaking: on behalf of the entire crew, we apologise for interrupting your flight, but for those of you sitting on the left-hand side of the gondola, if you squint, you can see us in the yacht far below. Thank you for choosing Stratospheric Airways."
In case you're wondering: Webb-site has never traded GME, long or short.
© Webb-site.com, 2021 - #37 [Chia], 21-01-30 09:59老散向對沖基金宣戰
GameStop挾淡倉狂潮,演變成散客大戰機構投資者,大衛痛擊巨人的戲碼。有Reddit用戶發公開信,痛斥華爾街2008金融海嘯期間,令數百萬人蒙受苦難,卻沒受懲罰反被救助,現在挾淡倉行動就是嘗試改變市場運作,他自己已全副積蓄投進GME,打算長揸不放,「我盡可能讓你們痛苦。」
Reddit網民ssauronn發公開信,指華爾街海嘯時令數百萬人受苦,但沒被懲罰,反而可怕的、非法的金融決策而被救助和獎勵。同時又指責主流媒體在華爾街利益下屈膝,妖魔化他們,指他們是市場破壞者。
公開信獲逾13萬upvote。
公開信全文翻譯:
在2008年的危機中,我才十幾歲。我清楚地記得華爾街那些人的魯莽行為,給我個人及我身邊的人的生活,帶來的巨大影響。我是幸運的──我的父母很謹慎,也有點偏執,他們儲備了一些糧食。那場危機降臨到我家時,我們還能保住小房子,但我們靠煎餅、奶粉、豆和米生活了一年。從那時起,我的父母就一直保持儲糧的習慣,保持儲藏室食品新鮮。
但我身邊的人、我的朋友和家庭,就沒有那麼幸運了。我的姑姑搬來和我們一起住,試圖找任何形式的工作,並向我家支付了她所能支付的微少租金。你知道用學校食堂用番茄醬包做的番茄湯是甚麼味道嗎?我的朋友們找到了答案。在危機低谷後的近一年時間裡,我爸穩定了我們的收入。他為了幫助別人,他僱用我朋友們的爸爸做一些零碎的家務,其中一個爸爸在我們的客房裡,建了一個新衣櫃,另一個為我們後院做了些美化工作。我將永遠為我的父母感到驕傲,因為在緊急時刻,甚或在我深信財務仍然十分緊絀的時候,他們還有心思和同情心,去幫助那些需要幫助的人。
致Melvin資本:你代表了那個時期我所討厭的一切。你們是一間靠剝削、操縱市場和媒體來建立優勢和賺錢的公司。你們只要繼續生存,就是一個尖銳的警號:在2008年危機期間,該為這麼多苦難負責的人,卻沒有受到懲罰。你們公然漠視法律。幾個月來(「涉嫌」)的非法沽空,以及最近盤後操縱市場的淫穢行為,表明你們自2008年以來沒有學到任何東西。你為甚麼會這樣?你的同伴因為可怕的、非法的金融決策而被救助和獎勵,這些決策對數百萬人的生活產生了負面影響。幾天前我買了股票,我把我的積蓄倒進了GME,用信用卡付了這個月的房租,又把房租的錢倒進了更多的GME(對支持WallStreetBets的網友,我不建議這樣做),我還在持貨。這是我個人的,也是數百萬人的。你可以下班後把GME的價格推到120美元。我哪裡也不去。你可以花錢買上千個的reddit機器人,但我會堅持。你可以讓所有主流媒體妖魔化我們,我不在乎。我會盡可能讓你們痛苦。
致CNBC:你們必須意識到,你們通過推廣機構的議程,獲利只是短期的。你的主力觀眾很快就會變得太老,而我們幾百萬人,不僅僅是WallStreetBets,而是每一個受2008年股災影響的人,現在都在關注GME,他們會記得你如何為毀了很多人的公司撐腰,並試圖拆掉小人物。我知道我肯定會記住這一點。作為回應,以下是CNBC的贊助商和合作夥伴名單,它們包括但不限於IBM、Cisco、TMobile、摩根、Oracle和ZipRecruiter。他們的母公司是NBC環球,由Comcast和GE持有。
致我們這一輩,這些現在只關注「千禧年的博客文章」的人:你要明白到即使你沒有受到2008年崩潰的影響,你的孩子,也許孫子孫女也有可能遇上?我們不是敵人,我們是同一陣營的。不要再信指我們是市場破壞者的媒體,支持我們吧,因為我們有一個千載難逢的機會,懲罰10年前給我們帶來苦難的人,而我們正在抓住這個機會。我們要對抗的體制,將來也可能令你的孩子、你的孫子孫女受苦。你真的想選擇他們,而不是你自己的家人和朋友?我們不是要你把你的401K或退休基金,冒著風險去賭一個GME。我們只是請你們理解、支持,不要支持10年前造成這麼多苦難的人。
致WallStreetBets網友:你們都很了不起。我想這不是只有我一個人的私心。我自己看了很多帖子,看到你們在2008年期間經歷了些甚麼。今次無論你們是為金錢,還是像我一樣的堅持,抑或只是為了成為改變市場運動的一份子──謝謝你們。你們每一個人都是我們有這個機會的原因。我從未對未來感到如此樂觀。對你們許多人來說,這是改變生活的一筆錢,而能夠成為從富人到窮人的財富分配中,罕見例子的一部分,真是不可思議。我愛你們。 - #36 [deadman], 21-01-29 22:14I have 50, average price 46.53.
- #35 [Chia], 21-01-29 21:43
Broker 唔比人買 GME 的真正原因
係怕 counter party risk 無錢找数
要中介人哽
中介人未必哽得落咁大數目
最後修改時間: 2021-01-29 21:46:42 - #34 [tpe_ryan], 21-01-29 12:44GME 再一次證明,全球去大台化,雖然結局吾會係一局就KO大戶
但深層次的問題,一日吾去正視,如此"反抗"將會繼續無定向發生
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好彩自己後生時都試過,爽呀。