- #45 [k.c], 12-06-11 17:36
- #44 [timtube], 12-06-11 17:32Both ECC84 and ECC85 are NOT compatible with ECC88.
Just as ECC81 and ECC82 are NOT compatible with ECC83.
The differences in spec are significant(e.g. ECC84 has only 50% of the transconductance and 70% of the gain of ECC88). The tubes would clearly not operate as per the circuit design.
But I have seen "brave" people using ECC81 and ECC82 to replace ECC83 and sound came out from the amp.
最後修改時間: 2012-06-11 17:38:37 - #43 [唐吉訶德], 12-06-11 16:31timtube hing,
ECC85 是否特性相容 ECC88?
為何用ECC84 是"brave" enough, 有何高見? -
- #42 [k.c], 12-06-11 14:50ecc85 價錢相宜, 好主意.
- #41 [timtube], 12-06-11 14:37If one is "brave" enough to use ECC84 to replace ECC88, why not use ECC85?
It has the same pin-out as ECC88 and therefore not adapter or modification is need. - #40 [k.c], 12-06-11 12:31TFK ECC88, E88CC asking price for around $2xxx right now, depends on condition and age.
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我對全新 e88cc 叫價 $ 2,100 好耐, 想賣二仟. 剛以仟八賣咗.
ecc88(非金腳低耐壓)平成半, 勿混淆. - #39 [唐吉訶德], 12-06-11 12:11kc hing,
TFK ECC88, E88CC asking price for around $2xxx right now, depends on condition and age.
I claimed that those tubes will/may ask for $8000 after 10 years!
BTW, we also consider condition, fake or other issues.
We all wish those new release items are good for us but reports from chings seem not positive and sonic performance far behind vintage tubes. - #38 [k.c], 12-06-11 11:27大盾 12ax7, 估約仟元.
- #37 [k.c], 12-06-11 11:09"D" 環, ecc88/6dj8 鼻祖, 估約仟元.
- #36 [k.c], 12-06-11 10:59TFK ECC88 可能八百蚊一對已買到, 咁快叫定$8000, 有 d 唔係幾好啩?
- #35 [fungfung334], 12-06-11 10:45唉!都是市場價值問題,畢竟玩膽是「小圈子」的玩意吧?!定律就係無人玩就無廠做,終有日「天價名膽」都會用完(除了個別收藏家外)要不就只有選用現今剩餘的幾間的新制品了!
- #34 [aftjv], 12-06-11 10:33其實有啲新版都Ok!幾百有一對。
家中有GE石墨,德仔,吹喇叭,飛仔,西仔。希望夠玩過世。
石機玩得好都好靚聲。尤其用平行。 - #33 [rcwy], 12-06-11 09:46如果有機會,找特性相近,又未炒貴的膽,對我等膽迷來說,是福音吧!
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唐兄:
小弟想指出: "相近" 永遠不會等於 "相等"
在認識這前題之下, 師兄的提議確是膽民之福音.
其實要避免貴價膽, 可走的路可能有三條:
1) 買使用平價膽的小眾產品, 例如 Dr. King 的 27D 前級和 EAR 某些型號.
2) 自己(或請師傅)設計/仿造, 使用平價膽的DIY機.
3) 使用完全相同 spec 特性但冷門的膽, 用轉腳座使到可以用在現時的機上, 例如用 6F8G + 轉腳座, 完全取代 6SN7, 可以安心(聲音)又放心(不會燒機/膽)用在 EICO HF-22, HF-35, HF-50, HF-89 等等, 及所有使用 6SN7 的機上. 因為 6F8G 的 spec 特性是完全等於 6SN7, 除了它們的腳位安排(pin-out) 不相同.
Just my 2 cents worth. :)
(利益聲明: 本人曾參與 Dr. King 的 27D 計劃, 但已經沒有任何商業利益關係.)
最後修改時間: 2012-06-11 09:54:27 - #32 [唐吉訶德], 12-06-11 09:44+年後,在此 post 出來的已可能是 ECC84 此類膽!
因為 TFK ECC88 可能叫 $8000/pair, used, 95% new 了!
不是笑話,那些二十年前,我們全不上眼的垃圾膽 Syxxxxx, 13Dx,最近都搬上來.............
Simens,70s前後的東德垃圾EL3x,又炒得火熱!
10M天價,12AX7絕跡!
各位膽發燒友庫存有多少? - #31 [唐吉訶德], 12-06-11 08:44如果有機會,找特性相近,又未炒貴的膽,對我等膽迷來說,是福音吧!
- #30 [fungfung334], 12-06-10 21:26死!口水流到一地都系添!
- #29 [唐吉訶德], 12-06-10 18:47全部價值不匪,貴到有錢都買唔起!
買得到,又可能假,又可能過了黃金期!
唔易玩喎! - #28 [philiplee], 12-06-10 18:38
- #27 [philiplee], 12-06-10 18:34
- #26 [philiplee], 12-06-10 18:28Brimar ECC84
歐州 ECC88
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ecc88 并非貴野, 圖中袛二,三百元一對.