- #283 [daddykool], 23-01-08 15:09
- #282 [Thanatos], 21-03-12 18:31其實如果一間廠平平實實咁講件產品係調節諧振,絕對冇問題
不過又聖又神,搬弄一大堆似是而非嘅科學理論扮高深,跟住推廣金屬價錢越貴越靚聲,咁就將一件產品由原本可能真係會帶來分別,變成神棍老泥丸,食咗一粒會升天 - #281 [BenYC], 21-03-12 17:43其實廠試完後生產的這類商品也只是在其試音室 trial and error 試出來。他們的試音室和我們的組合和聆聽環境從來不同。所以道理可以通用但效果和程度則是沒準則,也不一定適用。
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- #280 [hahayanyan], 21-03-12 14:57但係無聊嘅時候自己買啲材料搞搞震花幾百蚊都幾好玩㗎噃
佢哋何嘗唔係不斷嘗試搵出一個比較好嘅方案呢
最後修改時間: 2021-03-12 14:58:37 - #279 [Bluesilver], 21-03-12 12:52實驗都唔洗做!即使有100%改善都唔會用!到應該賣呢D價時,去快餐店食個飯都要幾千蚊先可落樓才對!
最後修改時間: 2021-03-12 12:55:23 - #278 [hahayanyan], 21-03-11 23:52或者比較戇居目前嘅構思 haha
Is open and semi rigid..
By swapping different type of contacting piece for different music...
But quite sure.. The first contact piece.. Is not mahogany..... Just too much of its sound.. ..
Roasted maple.., hard rock maple, Ebony... Or somehow natural sounding rosewood
Haha but it is a step up already by not using the original plinth
My L75 came with a wood plinth and the L78 came with a plastic..
I tend to have an open structure...
最後修改時間: 2021-03-12 00:05:29 - #277 [Thanatos], 21-03-11 23:44自己做實驗更加有趣味性,亦都學到更多野
最緊要係更加適合自己套系統
我個音響師傅曾經同我講過,唔識揸辣雞,唔識科學,唔自己落手去整,玩音響玩少一半
我唔熟Lenco 不過講返唱盤都開心嘅。因為我都好多年冇掂自己個唱盤。印象中自己最喜歡嘅唱盤要light, rigid and open
用10噸嘅物料去做唱盤聲音會好死,要用輕巧而強壯嘅物料去做唱盤聲音先至會活。但係如此輕巧嘅唱盤又要放在家中承托力最強嘅位置之上---即係主柱或風力牆(結構牆)上
rigidity 固然重要,否則聲音會鬆郁矇
open 即係盡量唔好有反射面,最差係好似一個盒咁嘅唱盤因為會有音箱效應,唱盤結構越開陽,音色也越開陽。
Tonewood 用響唱盤之上,要好小心,因為音染可能會好大,之後聽乜嘢歌都係咁聲 - #276 [hahayanyan], 21-03-11 23:26Am also experimenting using tone wood.. A few different type to support the lenco L75, the different tone wood give different outcome, and the changes is quite obvious too
Also made some. Electric guitar pickup ring mount by violin finger board wood too..
Fun..
最後修改時間: 2021-03-11 23:29:14 - #275 [Thanatos], 21-03-11 23:19其實調節諧振點當然會改變音效,是好是壞真係視乎情況
我當年響意大利訂咗幾舊Ciresa tonewood 返嚟,Stradivarius造小提琴嘅時候都係用同一種木,來自同一個樹林。
用落音響器材,音染非常強,如果承放於機底,音染大到不能接受。最後只能輕輕力掂住供電器火牛,先至叫做啱啱好。
我唔信音響配件有百搭呢一回事,我亦都唔會將諧振視為什麼量子牛頓超導。
唔需要太神化一啲野,諧振呢樣嘢自己搞難道不高,唔需要買什麼聖物神器
舉一個事例:
van den Hul 唱頭分析力超高,高頻空氣感強,但欠缺厚度與及溫暖度。有人幫河叔搵到夏威夷ukulele 嘅koa木,此木溫暖厚潤,與雲吞河唱頭一拍即合。歐洲好多發燒友話用koa木做嘅雲吞河唱頭係河叔最成功嘅唱頭
koa 木唔係啲乜嘢特別矜貴嘅木材,但就剛剛與雲吞河唱頭成為絕配。當中雲吞河從來冇提過乜嘢牛頓、上帝牛肉粒子、宇宙大爆炸。 - #274 [hahayanyan], 21-03-11 22:20其實神木,金粒,杯都是有用的,也可以聽得出有分別。更重要的問題是放隻木棋,硬幣,膠杯,是否一樣有效果?
i think so...it may also make some changes..
may be some thin and suspended piece of tone wood....etc..
a viola,violin guitar..lets say at first reflection point , i suppose front or back ..may also make a different.. etc..
but it is always a premium to pay for some tuned device..haha or less trail and error time..haha - #273 [BenYC], 21-03-11 22:10其實神木,金粒,杯都是有用的,也可以聽得出有分別。更重要的問題是放隻木棋,硬幣,膠杯,是否一樣有效果?
我當年無知試金粒,和用blutak加一蚊銀一樣,貼得啱位效果顯著。
最後修改時間: 2021-03-11 22:12:05 - #272 [kampo2], 21-03-11 22:04試吓搓實報紙塞喇叭後面個通氣窿,同原厰綿塞比較
應該有分別,說調整聲音又得,話影響音色又得 - #271 [hahayanyan], 21-03-11 21:36#270
唔通嗰啲報紙都係調音辦法?
從來都不 排除 有些人的聽覺是比常人勁抽好多嘅
最後修改時間: 2021-03-11 21:37:46 - #270 [Krell], 21-03-11 21:27Shun Mook(神木) 得唔得我唔知,當時剛投身社會工作無幾耐。印象中係貴價木料(x檀木)。
木料升價不少,爛杯唔會變珍貴吧? - #269 [Thanatos], 21-03-11 21:12唔好笑呀! 神木個「神」字一定要對正個高音單元,如果唔係成套音響器材嘅聲音會由天堂跌落地獄
另外,如果你唔記得黐一粒神木上去屋企個電箱個水氣掣,你套音響器材會即刻變成垃圾 - #268 [hahayanyan], 21-03-11 19:13Haha.. 喺度search乜嘢見到呢個post, 原來係幾年前
Haha
某年某月某日睇發燒音響都見到 一篇文章關於神木
都係類似呢啲嘢
最後修改時間: 2021-03-11 19:14:56 - #267 [kampo2], 21-03-11 18:30玩得起音響,又玩/試到無野好玩就買嚟玩/試吓,
另類玩得靚器材,屋企三尖八角/左右上下亂哂籠,相信想用它改善,
唔存在騙,自己有選擇權,又唔係用槍指頭,唔買唔比你出門口 - #266 [老坑], 21-03-11 18:12哈哈!!!!!神棍週圍都有,音響界就特別多!!
十幾年前係33呢度見到某位人兄,話用一塊細細張某個年分嘅報紙痴係佢部cello前級上面遮住盞燈就當堂好聲晒!!真係西鳩利!! - #265 [hahayanyan], 21-03-11 18:09理論上亦都係事實嘅物理學
如果找對位置, for some frequency.. It will emitt 2nd harmonic for some frequency at a very low level.. ... And for some sensitive ear.. Once that person detect those 2nd harmonic.. They will feel richness... Of the tone.. Etc..
Change of tonal quality perception... - #264 [Bluesilver], 21-03-11 17:35#260 係呀師兄,我唔敢講話呢D嘢冇用!用咗的確有改變,係咪叫改善我唔敢講,係咪唔用佢D嘢音場結像散哂呢,唔聽得呢?我又唔覺!間廠發明到呢D零成本產品係佢本事,即使幾大效果改善也好,我係冇可能會用一萬幾千甚至用更貴去買幾粒木頭或杯仔!set呢D價錢出來跟本是不人道,所以我沒可能做傻仔之一。
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