- #758 [hahayanyan], 22-09-05 23:58
- #757 [niceday009], 22-09-05 23:51呢对超過100kg一对SONY 後級TA-NR10,SONY近三十年再也沒出新款了
真正重料制作
最後修改時間: 2022-09-05 23:52:11 - #756 [niceday009], 22-09-05 23:44事實上日本70至90年初,音响係世界性工業,好多人願意花錢音响,而日本人最肯投資研發
到今時今日音響技術,如果2020年代音響市場仲係70,80年代咁興旺,日本大Corp如Technics, SONY, Pioneer 旗艦制作必定有吸收力
其實高級音响市場現在已經变得好小,吸引唔到日本大Corp做high ended產品
Accuphase 及TechDAS並非日本大Corp規模
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- #755 [hahayanyan], 22-09-05 23:16羅密歐羅密歐 master
你喜歡什麼的舊日重料for music enjoyment...
Or u do not prefer 重料?
Hehe
Keen to know..
Thx
Haha - #754 [羅密歐], 22-09-05 23:00我選SU-A2只是作為學習對象,不是拿來聽音樂。
- #753 [niceday009], 22-09-05 22:55#751
我個人睇
A2所擁有之技術含量相信係佢零件排位而又有咁多個掣咁多功能,整個設計唔易
但從現代技術的認知,放大器中訊源傳送之保真度技術,我估計佢对聲音之原音要求反而係次要
在70年代,全世界特別係日本对於固定頻率及波幅之失真測量過於依賴,往往注入数十 dB NFB, 咁樣你用儀器度一定失真低,呢個時代就係Technics A1 A2時代. 但呢D所謂低失真係用人耳聽係兩回事
最後修改時間: 2022-09-05 23:12:07 - #752 [hahayanyan], 22-09-05 21:39真的是各有所好
喜歡簡潔線路的
喜歡多功能的
喜歡研究的
硬件按鈕愛好者
interesting............
wonder the quality of the eq tooooooooo
https://audio-database.com/TechnicsPanasonic/amp/su-a2-e.html
Etc...
最後修改時間: 2022-09-05 21:40:58 - #751 [羅密歐], 22-09-05 21:36若兩者在我面前,我必選Technics SU-A2。單論技術含量,怕可供我研習一年。
- #750 [niceday009], 22-09-05 20:30反觀美国Ayre設計,人地將整個訊號放大傳遞過程盡量縮短至三四吋,你自己覺得Technics A2嘅設計好D定Ayre好D?
- #749 [niceday009], 22-09-05 20:21#746
部Technics A2前級,雖然個樣好嚇人又重料,有時我都質疑當年D日本設計工程師有冇担心過個音源訊號係裏面走來走去未去到放大線路係會走哂樣变衰声
咁多個掣為乜呢?真係為整到部機多D掣睇起嚟勁D,而犧牲D声(音源純度).
最後修改時間: 2022-09-05 20:33:31 - #748 [hahayanyan], 22-09-05 14:16the trend and believe is quite different now...............
- #747 [talkx2], 22-09-05 14:00而家啲十萬元級嘅機有無呢個場面?
- #746 [hahayanyan], 22-09-04 23:20a pre ampppppppppp Technics SU-A2 preamplifier.
最後修改時間: 2022-09-04 23:21:41 - #745 [niceday009], 22-09-04 20:50二手區有对4367賣5萬好抵,一買一賣應該有限錢,如果唔係手脚出咗事,一定抬对去試下,好想試佢個双震膜中高音單元,網上好評如潮
最後修改時間: 2022-09-04 20:55:19 - #744 [MDLP], 22-09-04 20:04
#742
都唔係冇取代品
留意下4367/4349
4367隻低音話係公認失真最低嘅15寸.....沒有之一 - #743 [MDLP], 22-09-04 19:33已經係15年前嘅設計
Array初出時個樣係有啲怪
當時我鍾意4429個樣
考慮咗好幾年睇順咗眼先敢請佢返嚟
日本題冇1400不過有1000或以下
Lai sir都有一對係av房
佢話第時唔玩67000都係聽對1400 - #742 [micromegamah], 22-09-04 18:15奇怪JBL唔再生產Array系列。
- #741 [niceday009], 22-09-04 17:35全段文,1400二手三萬幾好抵買
I auditioned these on the 35th floor of the Venitian in the Harmon suite during the 2011 CES show. The electronics were all Mark Levinson, including their 300 watt per channel stereo power amp. I was expecting them to sound like the other horn loaded speakers I've heard over the years, blarey, colored and harsh. The first cut I heard was of a piano, and I was shocked at how real it sounded. It really sounded like a piano was in the room. I was impressed, but I was sure they would still sound colored on voices. I couldn't have been more wrong. Next came a Frank Sinatra recording that just about knocked my socks off with the immediacy, total LACK of coloration and downright realness. Depth, imaging, dynamics are all superb on this ARRAY 14000 speaker. Cut after cut sounded absolutely amazing to me. I left the room to hear several other more traditional audiophile systems costing many times more than the simple JBL/Levinson combo, but none came close to recreating the live sound of this system. I was particularly unimpressed with an absurdly expensive system that featured Wilson Alexandia X-2s and Lamm amplifiers that came in at around 700,000 dollars. The JBL/Levinson system probably cost less than the cables used in this insanely priced system.
If you don't think you like horn systems, or if you've heard some of the newer SET/Horn combinations and weren't impressed, give the 1400s a listen, and prepare to have have your preconceived ideas about "JBL sound" smashed to bits. These are the most real sounding speakers I've ever heard.
最後修改時間: 2022-09-04 17:37:18 - #740 [niceday009], 22-09-04 17:08>>條友真係有料到
我都認同,佢講出近百年Horn 設計而係JBL之不断鑽研下不断改善係事實,又指出以前舊款古董horn直身欠曲線存在之音染問題又係事實
我經歷数款型號JBL及Klipsch 之horn 喇叭,
(1) horn 深度太長會做成更遠射程,更高声浪集中及高sensitivity 不過就更大音染,Klipsch La Scala horn 或以前Altec A5大金屬horn深廿幾吋有明顯coloration 播solo violin 唔掂,家用音响以高傳真為目的,而家JBL d horn只有幾吋至10吋深,而且結構有較明顯曲線,67000個horn 大但佢深度唔太長係JBL 研究之音質改善,播Violin solo 一樣掂(我已聽過別人之67000証實)
但有D人仲係屋企玩西电15a 巨型horn, 有佢自身嘅声音,但老實講你播隻Accardo Violin Solo就冇可能模仿像真
(2) Horn 原先打横放係因為户外現場可以讓
horizontal 更多人聽到,而you tube這仁兄又講出要個compression driver 加horn 响應較低頻率時,horn咀之濶度尺寸是越長越能响應較低頻率,但喇叭中高濶度越濶又會造成3D立體感結像減弱,這個已是現代做喇叭廠一般已知之事,就好似Wilson Alexandra, 德國Tidal喇叭前障板超窄身一樣
Greg Timber 未離開JBL時索性就反傳統地將隻20寸濶horn咀打直擺出ARRAY 系列,我都係睇咗Greg設計文章,一定要揾对試下而且價錢相宜抵買
ARRAY 刚出嚟外型一般評價係醜樣或怪異,日本人性格傳統,係日本直程冇ARRAY 呢糸列賣,但我信Greg Timer对耳,實試ARRAY 1400其3D立體結像感係我用過之JBL中係最好,1400冇JBL 43xx大monitor 咁有質感同力感,听埋身嘢冇咁刺激,但ARRAY 1400更似一对高解像力高立體感之HiFi喇叭
外國普遍对ARRAY 1400評價好高,話佢仲好過Wilson Alexandra X2貴十多倍喇叭,以下一則las Vegas音响展之報導
I left the room to hear several other more traditional audiophile systems costing many times more than the simple JBL/Levinson combo, but none came close to recreating the live sound of this system. I was particularly unimpressed with an absurdly expensive system that featured Wilson Alexandia X-2s and Lamm amplifiers that came in at around 700,000 dollars. The JBL/Levinson system probably cost less than the cables used in this insanely priced system.
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SONY 後級TA-NR10 have 220 to 240V version ?
always want it....because of the look..haha
u had it, was it 100V..and what kind of step down transformer u used?
thxxxxxxxxx
haahaa
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