- #41 [cpu8088], 10-12-06 08:42
- #42 [spong], 10-12-06 10:16趁呢兩曰得閒 手洗LP達40隻 中央既label紙最好用風筒吹乾.
洗前同洗後聽track 1/2發覺D炒豆聲真係少好多!
有D就唔得...例如周璇之歌....睇黎係壞的好不了,好的壞不了.
請問各位師兄有冇試過机動同手動洗LP直接A/B比較過;效果又掙幾遠呢!(洗碟机始終係要塭位擺,手洗最多俾老婆話整濕個地.) - #43 [BillySIU], 10-12-06 11:39徳發偉X話隻LP play多10次8次啦 D微粒就會挑哂出嚟 is not 老點.
reasons being the more u play the statics will be eliminated gradually, plus your stylus will dig out the dirt thats at the bottom of the grooves and clean up the LPs. Of course each time you played u have to brush the surface of the LPs.
i cannot see how u accuse someone is 100% 老點. Perhaps u have not tried nor having the expertise in this area.
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唔通d黑膠碟日日聽,就越來越乾淨,就連洗碟機都慳返?
我自己無論新碟或二手碟我都會用部Loricraft 洗碟洗一次先播放。新碟洗完後,可以清潔咗製造過程中表面的離(帽)濟,聽出來會更加清晰同細緻。
玩黑膠要接受炒豆聲,無論新舊碟都會有,只是多與少分別!當音樂好聽的時候,炒豆聲自然減少,因為你的注意力放落旋律中,所以好似少咗D炒豆。
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- #44 [zoltm], 10-12-06 11:45
- #45 [spong], 10-12-06 12:02所以話偉利曾Sir講D野係深層次既!
我個人就唔會連續play隻click click聲既LP拾次去試呢D野. - #46 [cpu8088], 10-12-06 15:09"""因為你的注意力放落旋律中,所以好似少咗D炒豆。"""
this is entirely bs. if u can do that why u need to wash your LPs. or u are saying u have a lot of crappy music LPs? - #47 [spyder], 10-12-06 16:01spong hing,
I used hand wash before but after 20 disc.... I bought a Classic 33. It is a copy-cat of VPI 16.5.
there was my figure-print on the LP if I use hand-wash. The center label cannot wet to long. The hair-dryer is danger to the LP when drying.
last, time spend on hand wash is much more then machine. - #48 [batmanames04], 10-12-06 16:42玩黑膠要接受炒豆聲,無論新舊碟都會有,只是多與少分別!當音樂好聽的時候,炒豆聲自然減少,因為你的注意力放落旋律中,所以好似少咗D炒豆。
xn - #49 [spong], 10-12-06 16:58spyder 兄,
你講得岩既 洗完40大碟後我D老野真係散哂,
好似個大廚煮完九大鬼噤重惦食得落野.,所以禮拜晚真係好早say goodnight. - #50 [kwok787], 11-05-29 21:57新手一問:
所謂"炒豆聲"是否"勒勒"聲.即使在首與首之間的空白區也出現? - #51 [cornercube], 11-05-29 23:13>>>>........."炒豆聲"是否"勒勒".....出現?
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係, 不過唔1定空白區先出現, 任何時段都有機會, 只因 靜/弱 音段"炒豆聲" 無セ音樂/訊号 掩護 故較凸出. - #52 [kwok787], 11-05-30 00:04是不是唱頭調較不好, 或多是唱片本身有問題?
- #53 [黃思璁], 11-05-30 00:27如調校正確,「新碟」和「舊碟」也不應該有明顯噪音。
在「最佳情況」下,在前者(新碟)播放訊號時,背景及左右兩側應也不會有任何明顯噪音,除非本身製作有問題(例如: 厚度明顯不均)。
如使用正確,調校準繩,清潔無塵,表面沒有損壞或刮花,播「舊碟」時也不應有太明顯而持續的「炒豆聲」及「雜聲」。
在碟面拾音時,有「炒豆聲」及有不正常「雜聲」主要由於:
1) 坑紋損壞
2) 污積
3) 針尖損壞或切割不良
4) 調校出錯,令唱頭無法達成原定最佳拾音效能
5) 靜電
6) 唱頭老化
最後修改時間: 2011-05-30 00:44:17 - #54 [kwok787], 11-05-31 00:14如果是{舊碟}炒豆,應怎樣用手清洗(不用洗碟機)? 用那種清潔劑?
- #55 [孟波], 11-05-31 00:21當年SAE有部model5000專門對付LP炒豆聲,有冇興趣搵來試試。
- #56 [黃思璁], 11-05-31 00:28如果有炒豆聲,應是陳年舊碟,污積深入坑紋,引發噪音,只用手洗很難可以徹底清潔而不影響碟面,還是買洗碟機為上上算,價錢$2k-30k也有,因應個人需要吧。
但坑紋損壞了,洗了也不會復原的。 - #57 [vt75], 11-05-31 04:24但若果LP已用洗碟清洗多次仍有炒豆聲的話,這意味着這張LP的坑紋已受損,無得救! x2
- #58 [vt75], 11-05-31 04:26用laser turn table 播LP也許會無炒豆聲,但多年前在Hi-Fi show聽過,效果完全唔掂,無LP應有活生感和音樂感!
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玩黑膠玩到咁辛苦聽番 CD 好過 - #59 [cpu8088], 11-05-31 10:43有得攪!!!
rip the LP to digital using an analog to digital converter and use some software to remove the clicks and pops. - #60 [黃思璁], 11-05-31 13:59如果真的不捨得掉了那些陳年但珍貴的黑膠,黃某會用一只便宜的唱頭來播它,相信對純音樂欣賞,不會帶來太多不便和隔膜。
還有,經典人物如Furtwangler, Kreisler, Rachmaninov等有很多錄音都是mono及充滿雜音,但卻無損它們的音樂魅力!
發燒友應有兩對耳仔:
一對常開來聽『音樂』,另一對間中扭開來聽『音響』 ^__^
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reasons being the more u play the statics will be eliminated gradually, plus your stylus will dig out the dirt thats at the bottom of the grooves and clean up the LPs. Of course each time you played u have to brush the surface of the LPs.
i cannot see how u accuse someone is 100% 老點. Perhaps u have not tried nor having the expertise in this area.
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