- #88 [hahayanyan], 22-10-10 15:05
- #87 [grease_ng], 22-10-10 09:58炒豆聲係由於唱片汚糟引致,而唯一的方法就係清洗,洗碟的方法有好多,機洗、手洗,或者機、手一齊洗,任君選擇,只要完成清洗後,結果有9成或以上乾淨(一下半下雜聲尚可接受),如果洗完都係「是厘沙那」,咁即係未得,再洗,試下其他方法/更改程序,唔一定要花錢,只要效果好。洗碟過程係好沉悶,但成功清洗後再聽番,你會覺得你嘅努力係冇白費。
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真係好靚聲!巧通透,亮麗,好有感情,女聲!!
LP 12. 隻碟落針背境好靜,禾係第一次聽到咁真實,有血有肉有質感,有厚度的唱片聲! - #86 [celestion], 22-10-08 16:3779-80/
Tlng57 & niceday009 c hing,
我絕對不同意你的觀點, 清洗黑膠唱片是應該的,是玩黑膠唱片重要的的一部分, 你明知黑膠唱片有沙 石 塵, 你不去完全清洗, 表面用絨布抹無用, 仍然有炒豆聲. Ting57 "玩黑膠接受唔到炒豆聲不如聽CD" 跟清洗黑膠唱片2碼子事. -
- #85 [八達通], 22-10-07 16:22之前有fd買左隻2手碟
我幫佢用傳統方法(洗潔晶+擦+强勁水壓)
洗左兩次,係少左不過都係有
用部洗眼鏡去震,真係掂無抄豆不過只能洗到第一首歌
所以都會淘部超聲波生産器無黑膠洗時,洗菜都好 - #84 [伏喱哩], 22-10-07 15:53搵d粗d既MM唱針落唔到碟底會小d炒豆聲
- #83 [micromegamah], 22-10-07 14:57如果音軌坑道已經有損壞,就無得攪。
- #82 [hahayanyan], 22-10-07 14:07i never have expensive LP washing machine
even it is vacuum dried......... ( from those China Amati or old VPI ) ..it should lets it further Air dry ..for 20 mins...before it is put back into the sleeve........................
may be it is super and really dry from those Expensive Machine... but not really from cheaper machine - #81 [hahayanyan], 22-10-07 13:22if it is new or not old but dirty LP
may be possible to kill those 抄豆聲
i have 4 step washing...for some dirty LP
1) Filter water...
2) Washing up liquid ( Fairly Brand ) ...there is a technical reason for using it..., as it really flow better... leave less residue 英國人洗碗係唔過水嘅, 呢隻牌子不斷改良維持安全幾十年確保唔過水 所有殘只殘留物都會重少少水流走... 佢嘅流動性真係同花王嗰啲唔同㗎, 絕對係一個有科研嘅洗潔精產品嚟㗎
3) 70% Alcohol
4) final Rinse by Filter Water...........
most important..a good brush............................
all by simple china made vacuum type of LP washing machine
the best................................Colgate Carbon brush.............
咁多年嚟不斷試唔同嘅 brush... 呢個真係好, 長尖..soft... Really clean deeper effortlessly
最後修改時間: 2022-10-07 13:27:07 - #80 [Tlng57], 22-10-07 12:37玩黑膠接受唔到炒豆聲不如聽CD
- #79 [niceday009], 22-10-07 12:20清水+火酒,用絨布抹及唱片刷已經可以
雜声同唱片質地有關,日本唱片雜音好少 - #78 [k.c.78], 22-10-07 11:30#76
買得到洗碟機,又怎會不洗碟呢 - #77 [林菲], 22-10-07 10:52我就從來都唔清洗黑膠唱片,搵隻靜電刷掃下就會,
已經訓練到對耳可以將「抄豆聲」隔離,聽而不聞。 - #76 [grease_ng], 22-10-07 10:10昨日講完外圈,今日講内圈,由於黑膠最外較薄而最内較厚,所以坑紋最外較淺,而最內較深。唱片播放時,唱針會帶埋D沙、石、塵往内圈及遗留在唱片坑紋内圈,日子有功,就愈積愈多,嚴重會再播放時出現拆聲,跳線。所以當大家買黑膠唱片回家後,應該第一時間徹底清冼,將黑膠唱片以外的東西全部移除,特别係D中文唱片,原因99.9%以前D人從來不會洗唱片,加上90年代好多人棄置黑膠轉玩LD, CD。呢D棄置嘅黑膠從垃圾房再轉到鴨記(統稱),繼而風吹雨打,日曬雨淋,再被一些人或買手回收,再轉售予一些仍然有興趣玩嘅人,别祈望二手佬賣碟俾會完全清洗,時至今日經過幾十年,一些年輕人覺得黑膠好新奇(可能未玩過)寧願花費大量金錢去買/去換唱盤、唱頭、風炉、洗碟機等等,都不願意花時間去清洗黑膠。黑膠唱片除咗係聲音嘅來源,亦係整套黑膠系統嘅最前端。播放一隻汚糟嘅唱片時,用乜野架生都唔會覺得靚聲。
- #75 [grease_ng], 22-10-06 09:55上回講到黑膠碟最外較薄而最内較厚,加上外圍凸起,會發覺開始的幾分鐘係凹,再加上好多人從封套攞隻碟出來時,使用少林72絕技~拈花指,掹住碟邊拉出來,D手汗、手汚、塵全部黐哂落開頭,久而久之又变為漬,播放時咪有炒豆聲,如果用吸管式去處理,因為開始的部份係凹的,吸管被外圍及內圈架空,支吸管只能吸到唱片拱起的部份,所以唔係隻唱片唱壞,而係D洗碟機洗唔乾淨隻碟,又有D洗碟機預設時時或程序,完成後,如果隻碟識講野會話,我都未洗乾淨,全身仲係污漬。但很多人只會話隻碟唔得,從未懷疑過部洗碟機唔得。
- #74 [CS168], 22-10-05 22:03
禾十年前在音嚮展,真實聽過黑膠威力!!
真係好靚聲!巧通透,亮麗,好有感情,女聲!!
LP 12. 隻碟落針背境好靜,禾係第一次聽到咁真實,有血有肉有質感,有厚度的唱片聲!
而對喇叭係,雨後初晴!! - #73 [grease_ng], 22-10-05 10:58聽黑膠唔一定要聽埋D炒豆聲,只要努力認真去處理隻碟,可以係靜如深海。
係洗碟之前,首先要認識一下黑膠碟先,黑膠碟由最外到內係呈波浪型,最外較薄而最内較厚,並不是想像平直。為何會出見炒豆聲呢?原因係碟内坑紋入面積聚大量沙,石仔,漬,而D漬蓋過D沙石,而呢D漬又被另外D漬蓋過,做成漬冚漬,而呢D漬冚漬幾十年來早巳經乾硬化,所以唱針過時便出現炒豆聲了。 - #72 [CodyChan], 22-10-01 22:15骨妹1q定輸贏!
- #71 [林菲], 22-10-01 21:29^0^
- #69 [cominox], 11-06-12 19:35還有個唱頭放大器效能要高,即是唔落針,扭大個volume越少"沙沙"聲越理想,雖然不直接可減低炒豆聲,但背景靜了,相對整體噪音明顯改善
- #68 [ModernClassic], 11-06-11 17:51炒豆聲除左洗碟可解决問題外, 原來唱針都關事的, 以前我用 Grado 唱頭會有好多炒豆聲, 但轉用 Clearaudio 唱頭後炒豆聲可減至跟零, 說明書話 clearaudio 唱針超幼細, 能深入唱片深坑, 那處塵埃比較少些, 所以炒豆聲都少d錦話, 請各大大指教.
I am not sure about 塵埃. But if you are buying old second hand LP, then most of them have damaged grooves near the surface.
If you use high quality profiled stylus, such as line cantact, MR, shubata etc then the stylus may reach the deeper ( untouched ) area... see the photo....hence much quieter and free from distortion too...... - 下一頁 (1 of 5)
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also have that kind of 有血有肉有質感
and fun to create our own playlist ...for each tape too
haha
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