esoteric X01 limited price cost around 50K at 2nd hand market, good stuff x 2!
but a bit over your budget!

X01 50K 二手平啦,我記得年半前要60k 以上,(吾知有冇記錯)

Hi, unclseven, I am also the user of X03SE with MUBE, it's really good. Does it a good upgrade to adding a G03X? I have no chance to listen this couple there is out of stock recently....

多謝咁多位回覆!
咁其實係咪以4萬的水位, 買一部過4萬的cd player, 會好過買部2萬的dac加部2萬的transport?
小弟用緊部sony scd-1做transport同部audio synthesis的dax decade dac, 因dac有減output所以可以直出至後級, 發覺咁駁法唔駛用前級, 會聽多好多details同細節, 特別係聽d彈得好快的豎琴或結他類樂器就好明顯....連阿老闆都好易咁可以聽出分別, 但若一駁番前級出就無左呢個優點.
而家諗緊係咪賣左兩舊換一舊會有更好效果? 但可能會無左駁少部前級的好處...

有冇邊部cdp係呢個range(4萬)而好聲得黎又有output調呢?

Eso...... change model is too quick.
As i rem, if X-01 D2 is still not release. the price is around 55~58K at 2nd.
Now, it is below 50K.

But X-01 ltd is a good CD & SACD Player.
(I also owned it before)

he........he
But i change to wadia friends now!

Since you are using SCD-1, you can get a higher grade DAC & keep the SCD-1 for play SACD.

For 40K CDP that have volume control, Wadia 861 & Mark 390S is a good choice.

uncleseven hing,

When can I get 2nd hand X01 Ltd under 50k? I am now using X03se and would consider an upgrade. Thanks!

Rgs,
Ben

Marantz SA-7S1

xyz_ps hing,

非常同意你的講法, CDP直推後級可以聽多很多details, 二胡的聲更真更軟, 我反覆比較後亦用此方法.

stephenchow2k


我自己想買新機,二手我驚驚

no problem

I have listen MBL with my friend today prices is close $60k, sound is so so my friend said. the problem is shop setup. MBL cd + MBL int amp + Elac speaker.

Finally my friend go to 581

if you want to bought 581 too call me special prices for you only a bit cheap.

hehe.......

same case of me..........
After compared..... 1531 & 581se......

I also go to 581se.

Hi benpak,

I saw 2 pcs of X-01 ltd sold less than 50K in R33 before.
If over 50K, i will suggest add more to wait 2nd hand of 581se.

I can tell you a real story. At the beginning, My friend want to find a SACD Player less than 50K. Then He & me go to AB compare X-03SE, Cary 306 SACD & accuphase DP-78.

He like the X-03SE But feel a little bit dry. When he want to leave......... he saw one player the outlook is quite similar with X-03SE and he ask to try. I said that wow......... this is out your budget..... still want to try?
He said ok la....... no need to pay ar... just try. ha.....ha, it is the X-01 ltd. When he tried...... he said much much better....... totally diff class.
He ask the price & want to get it immediately.
I said that 8xK wow....... still get... he said no problem....... Then i ask him come back to home & think think sin. Since his budget is only 50K....... He said OK.........

hahahhahahha.......
Next day....... he said that pls help him to get a little bit discount & sure confirm to get. Then we paid for it & get it back home.

uncleseven hing, wadia 581se 在那方面優勝1531和x-01?

the firend bought wadia 581se on today.

xyz_ps hing,

如果你部Sony scd-1狀態好，又已換新光頭的，可留用作CD trasnport，吾好信XX講話scd-1 out曬，若果你借到部貴個坒鮪D trasnport 比較下就知，scd-1 播SACD音場比現在的幾萬元的SACD機會窄D，但係3-D立體感吾會輸好多，而且scd-1播SACD完全冇冷冰冰的感覺。

xyz_ps hing,"因dac有減output所以可以直出至後級, 發覺咁駁法唔駛用前級"是因為dac應用了數位音量控制技術。
數位音量控制技術大致上有三種，第一種就是以軟體運算的方式計算出在某音量的狀況之下所需要的衰減值，然後再策動一組音量電位器或是音量ic來將音量衰減，基本上其工作區間還是在類比的部分，很多號稱數位音量控制的前級擴大器就是使用這一種方式。另一種數位音量控制就比較複雜了，它通常也是使用一組運算軟體來計算出所需的衰減值，然後再通知轉換器之中的類比放大部分，直接在這堨峟絮qic以衰減增益的方式來進行音量調節。這種音量調整方式的音雜較少，通常輸出衰減幾個db其解析度就會下降一個bit。所以在運用此技術作音量衰減的時候，必須很注意解析度的問題，尤其是電平極低時候，要儘量避免使解析力低過標準的14位元解析力。最後一種方式是全數位元式，它是先將輸入訊號經過一個類比/數位轉換器（a/d）轉換成數位訊號，然後在透過運算軟體控制訊號的衰減度，最後再還原成類比的訊號。這種方式所受的干擾很小，但是同樣要注意到解析力的問題，還有a/d及d/a部分的品質也會影響聲音的表現。

Yes, SCD-1 can be a CDT!

hakman,

Thanks for your input. According to the website of Audio Synthesis, it appears like DAX Decade is using a different methodology than the 3 methods that you mentioned for volume control.
http://www.audiosynthesis.co.uk/dax_decade.htm

In fact, i'm still comparing:
1) SACD layer (by SCD-1) to pre-amp to power amp
2) CD layer (SCD-1 as transport) to Dax Decade to power amp directly....

At this moment, my impression is that 2) is better.....but need to try more SACD before reaching any conclusion.

一定是分體的好啦！

分體的話, 邊部transport配邊部dac好呢?　加埋大約４萬蚊...