- #21 [simonix], 11-02-06 18:08
- #22 [stephenchow2k], 11-02-06 18:10玩Hifi器材吾會好貴,街磚先攞命
- #23 [ericcheng], 11-02-06 18:12我廿幾年前轉打日本仔工時,冇幾耐就產生一個好大的疑問,就係點解日本仔原來可以是咁戇居? 隨後與日本仔共事廿幾年,得到肯定的結論就是日本仔其實真的很戇居。
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我以為佢地玩電子分音玩得好好,房又細又貼牆仲吓吓玩四,五路電分,香港又好少有成功例子. -
- #24 [黃思璁], 11-02-06 18:26>>>所以我真係唔明,日本仔d房得果一百呎左右點玩4344???<<<
Agreed. Without professional room treatment/correction, IMHO, the answer will be 99.99% "suboptimal" with concrete structures(like those in HK).
More than 20 years ago, I used to play around in my friend's(named KK) studio in Electric Rd, North point. Their JBL were used in a studio with floor area more than 300 s.f.
最後修改時間: 2011-02-06 18:42:38 - #25 [DRAMIS], 11-02-06 21:48>>>>所以我真係唔明,日本仔d房得果一百呎左右點玩4344?
係咪即係咁樣?
最後修改時間: 2011-02-06 21:50:32 - #26 [cpu8088], 11-02-06 21:51in japan a lot of rooms are partitioned by paper and wooden planks. so in reality it is like open space with no concrete wall for reflection.
speaker disappearing is a state of mind or out of your imagination. a pair of speaker can make u believe a singer is standing in the middle singing a song in front of u. your brain is being deceived to believe that. similarly if you perceive sound is coming from the back of speakers that means your set up is totally wrong.
have you seen any speaker manufacturer claiming their speakers will disappear? most would claim the sound stage and correct imaging. - #27 [diytfy], 11-02-06 23:13聆聽環境最少佔了七成效果
好多超靚音響, D聲沒地方流放 , 好似在條巷聽野咁旣..
大棚交響樂一定要地方大, 喇叭大, 有比較你就知, 沒得扮撚聲超人
真樂器一支violin , 一個鋼琴巳經爆屋, (唔好講 carmina 果D 陣容) , 盡量做到"近" D 啦... - #28 [chris50947], 11-02-07 12:20咁點先算比例(size)正確呢?
- #29 [S6410], 11-02-07 13:02speaker disappearing is a state of mind or out of your imagination. a pair of speaker can make u believe a singer is standing in the middle singing a song in front of u. your brain is being deceived to believe that. similarly if you perceive sound is coming from the back of speakers that means your set up is totally wrong.
This indicates your shallow PRACTICAL experience in HK.
Some good loudspeakers with good tweeters (such as diamond or ribbons) could really "disappear" in your room, reflecting the loudspeaker's excellent ability to re-create (or create) the soundstage!
Again comments of a braggadocio! - #30 [racewong], 11-02-07 13:24昨天聽依對.............
聆聽環境大約200尺...好聲到不得了, 音質靚就唔駛講啦, 最估唔到係聽大棚古典交响樂時, 都可以做到絕靚音場. 樂器分佈適中/分隔度仔細. 越大聲越過引....果然係深水步低音王. - #31 [cpu8088], 11-02-07 14:07"""PRACTICAL experience in HK."""???
oh only hk people can make speakers disappear. is this magic?
recreation of soundstage means speaker disappearance. come on get real.
you mentioned diamond and/or ribbon tweeters. why cant a good titanium tweeter do it? what about low bass? can one localize the speaker? or do u mean only partial disappearance?
最後修改時間: 2011-02-07 14:08:53 - #32 [黃思璁], 11-02-07 14:36配搭器材時,不只房間面積重要,還要看長濶高的比例,房間物料、佈置等。可惜唔會有一條人人合用的公式,正如很少人會用一模一樣的房間和器材。
先前提到的房間,18*26*11.5=5392立方尺,其實是一個很大的容積,在這裡靚聲的器材,不可盲目跟風照買,否則很易「出事」。 - #33 [ericcheng], 11-02-07 15:27年初就去左一位世伯家拜年,個廳大約有400面積,黑膠+胆機+號角+雙15吋低音,真係第一次聽到咩叫大棚野,聽左一個鍾左右,音場正位層次樂器件件齊,因唔係太熟,我估下年先有得再去.
- #34 [diytfy], 11-02-07 17:38The width of is more important , If someones can make the sound stage very wide, I believe the depth is automatically come out.
If a listening room is deep and narrow, the sound is easy to boom , and side wall reflection distortion is quite serious. Many people use absorbers trying to reduce the side wall effect. Afterall , it's just like listening music in a long corridor. - #35 [孟波], 11-02-07 17:46ericcheng兄:
我咁都係玩大號角加雙15"低音,唔知你世伯用無源分音定係電分呢? - #36 [peter_l], 11-02-07 18:56配搭好 (include 房間大小, 聆聽環境, 器材配合)的大喇叭more 好聲 than 配搭好的小喇叭 in "almost" all types of music.
I now use Altec 604C. I enjoy them a lot more than all bookshelf speakers (e.g., 3/5a, Proac 1sc, etc.) I used before. Small speakers mostly don't give effortless sound when playing large scale music.
yet if you just talk about resolution in the mid-range and highs, speaker sizes may not be an important factor. - #37 [ericcheng], 11-02-07 22:32孟波兄...
眼見有部 SPL,d制排位好似'米'字型,幾靚幾型,
同件Cello 12粒,地下又有份分音,我見佢d線真係好亂,
完全跟唔到,佢講我又唔明,佢仲笑笑口話,d線唔亂先好聲. - #38 [孟波], 11-02-07 23:46ericcheng兄:
唔識SPL係乜?你世伯用單端膽後定係推挽呢? - #39 [ericcheng], 11-02-08 00:19孟波兄....
SPL應該係電分
我見我識有兩部Audio Note 845單端,其他胆機就唔多識,不過d樣老過老虎.
最後修改時間: 2011-02-08 00:20:36 - #40 [無名氏], 11-02-08 22:38大棚交響樂o既樂器種類及數量都有番o甘o上o下多而演奏埸地都梗係有番o甘o上o下大.所以還原大棚交響樂錄音o既喇叭應該有o甘o上o下大棚(o甘o上o下多路o既單元)o黎還原眾多種類及數量樂器o既質感及音場.當然大棚喇叭o既聆聽環境亦應有o甘o上o下大.始終聲學係物理現象.
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屋仔細細都係用小喇叭易玩得多。