- #34 [diytfy], 11-02-07 17:38
- #33 [ericcheng], 11-02-07 15:27年初就去左一位世伯家拜年,個廳大約有400面積,黑膠+胆機+號角+雙15吋低音,真係第一次聽到咩叫大棚野,聽左一個鍾左右,音場正位層次樂器件件齊,因唔係太熟,我估下年先有得再去.
- #32 [黃思璁], 11-02-07 14:36配搭器材時,不只房間面積重要,還要看長濶高的比例,房間物料、佈置等。可惜唔會有一條人人合用的公式,正如很少人會用一模一樣的房間和器材。
先前提到的房間,18*26*11.5=5392立方尺,其實是一個很大的容積,在這裡靚聲的器材,不可盲目跟風照買,否則很易「出事」。 -
- #31 [cpu8088], 11-02-07 14:07"""PRACTICAL experience in HK."""???
oh only hk people can make speakers disappear. is this magic?
recreation of soundstage means speaker disappearance. come on get real.
you mentioned diamond and/or ribbon tweeters. why cant a good titanium tweeter do it? what about low bass? can one localize the speaker? or do u mean only partial disappearance?
最後修改時間: 2011-02-07 14:08:53 - #30 [racewong], 11-02-07 13:24昨天聽依對.............
聆聽環境大約200尺...好聲到不得了, 音質靚就唔駛講啦, 最估唔到係聽大棚古典交响樂時, 都可以做到絕靚音場. 樂器分佈適中/分隔度仔細. 越大聲越過引....果然係深水步低音王. - #29 [S6410], 11-02-07 13:02speaker disappearing is a state of mind or out of your imagination. a pair of speaker can make u believe a singer is standing in the middle singing a song in front of u. your brain is being deceived to believe that. similarly if you perceive sound is coming from the back of speakers that means your set up is totally wrong.
This indicates your shallow PRACTICAL experience in HK.
Some good loudspeakers with good tweeters (such as diamond or ribbons) could really "disappear" in your room, reflecting the loudspeaker's excellent ability to re-create (or create) the soundstage!
Again comments of a braggadocio! - #28 [chris50947], 11-02-07 12:20咁點先算比例(size)正確呢?
- #27 [diytfy], 11-02-06 23:13聆聽環境最少佔了七成效果
好多超靚音響, D聲沒地方流放 , 好似在條巷聽野咁旣..
大棚交響樂一定要地方大, 喇叭大, 有比較你就知, 沒得扮撚聲超人
真樂器一支violin , 一個鋼琴巳經爆屋, (唔好講 carmina 果D 陣容) , 盡量做到"近" D 啦... - #26 [cpu8088], 11-02-06 21:51in japan a lot of rooms are partitioned by paper and wooden planks. so in reality it is like open space with no concrete wall for reflection.
speaker disappearing is a state of mind or out of your imagination. a pair of speaker can make u believe a singer is standing in the middle singing a song in front of u. your brain is being deceived to believe that. similarly if you perceive sound is coming from the back of speakers that means your set up is totally wrong.
have you seen any speaker manufacturer claiming their speakers will disappear? most would claim the sound stage and correct imaging. - #25 [DRAMIS], 11-02-06 21:48>>>>所以我真係唔明,日本仔d房得果一百呎左右點玩4344?
係咪即係咁樣?
最後修改時間: 2011-02-06 21:50:32 - #24 [黃思璁], 11-02-06 18:26>>>所以我真係唔明,日本仔d房得果一百呎左右點玩4344???<<<
Agreed. Without professional room treatment/correction, IMHO, the answer will be 99.99% "suboptimal" with concrete structures(like those in HK).
More than 20 years ago, I used to play around in my friend's(named KK) studio in Electric Rd, North point. Their JBL were used in a studio with floor area more than 300 s.f.
最後修改時間: 2011-02-06 18:42:38 - #23 [ericcheng], 11-02-06 18:12我廿幾年前轉打日本仔工時,冇幾耐就產生一個好大的疑問,就係點解日本仔原來可以是咁戇居? 隨後與日本仔共事廿幾年,得到肯定的結論就是日本仔其實真的很戇居。
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我以為佢地玩電子分音玩得好好,房又細又貼牆仲吓吓玩四,五路電分,香港又好少有成功例子. - #22 [stephenchow2k], 11-02-06 18:10玩Hifi器材吾會好貴,街磚先攞命
- #21 [simonix], 11-02-06 18:08廟大燈籠大,氣勢當然夠嚇鬼!
屋仔細細都係用小喇叭易玩得多。 - #20 [thomasc2], 11-02-06 17:50""""我見解比較不同,在我泥講,喇叭隱形才是最重要,喇叭大係好,但如果感覺係喇叭處發聲,實在幾無引…""""
咁就唔止是喇叭大小,主要是聆聽環境的問題。
"""所以我真係唔明,日本仔d房得果一百呎左右點玩4344???"""
我廿幾年前轉打日本仔工時,冇幾耐就產生一個好大的疑問,就係點解日本仔原來可以是咁戇居? 隨後與日本仔共事廿幾年,得到肯定的結論就是日本仔其實真的很戇居。
最後修改時間: 2011-02-06 18:04:59 - #19 [stephenchow2k], 11-02-06 17:45咩都假,玩得耐先知完來地方最緊要
- #18 [ericcheng], 11-02-06 17:04所以我真係唔明,日本仔d房得果一百呎左右點玩4344???
- #17 [黃思璁], 11-02-06 15:56聽音環境和器材配合極為重要。
較小房間只能用較小的揚聲器,大音壓下(像聽現場時,坐較前排中間),播大爆棚,難度極高!
在大面積房間,配合大型座地揚聲器,就容易「搞」得多。
試過在18' x 26' x 11.5' (W x D x H)房間,用Nagra VPS, Audio Note M6 III, Hegel H10推KEF Ref 207/2,
既震撼澎湃,亦鬆容不迫,管樂絃樂井然有序,效果非常理想。
在同一環境,以Audio Valve Sunilda(phono), VTL TL-7.5, Siegfried monoblocks推Rockport Tech Mira Grand,播la Fete de L'ane(Harmonia Mundi出品)黑膠,那強橫動態,真實無比的人聲,響徹雲霄的堂音,也是一絕!
(以上資料只作參考)
最後修改時間: 2011-02-06 16:05:30 - #16 [anthlai], 11-02-06 15:44Racewong 錄音室要求係乜都聽到,同家居唔同!
- #15 [anthlai], 11-02-06 15:21我見解比較不同,在我泥講,喇叭隱形才是最重要,喇叭大係好,但如果感覺係喇叭處發聲,實在幾無引…<<非常同意亦係小弟的基本要求^__^
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If a listening room is deep and narrow, the sound is easy to boom , and side wall reflection distortion is quite serious. Many people use absorbers trying to reduce the side wall effect. Afterall , it's just like listening music in a long corridor.