- #182 [chester2505], 11-10-24 23:04
- #181 [blau.vol], 11-10-22 22:00Yes, it is a very interesting debate, I believe MSB need to disclose a bit more how it measure. However, base on the computeraudiophile forum's guy calculation, the result is around 0.4 - 0.2 ps on its attachment.
However, I believe MSB should NOT release the clock for the DAC IV, it should release the clock for its ADC. for the ADC , it is more important than the DAC .
with a poor designed ADC converted data , you will never get something really very good with the 0.1pico DAC....
Cheers!
Blau
- #180 [ackcheng], 11-10-20 22:39And here are some interesting discussion about the data presented
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/0097-ps-clock-MSB-Technology -
- #179 [ackcheng], 11-10-20 22:30
- #178 [blau.vol], 11-10-20 21:20I hope to hear the different too. 0.097 pico for jitter is the best performance I believe.
blau - #177 [chester2505], 11-10-18 12:00如果代理有放在店試, 一定要聽聽
高級器材一般都話自己機種少於1.0pico
現在裝了它少於0.097pico
世上又出現了一件神級的玩具
真希望可以試聽! - #176 [blau.vol], 11-10-13 19:02Definitely overpriced! Agree , Actually I don't think the diamond version should be that expensive also. Msb is competing with dcs. Competing for higher price! Cheers! Blau
- #175 [ackcheng], 11-10-13 13:52This is way over priced. You can get -130dB at 10hz and -155dB at 10KHz with this
http://www.thinksrs.com/products/PRS10.htm
yes, it is Rhi based! - #174 [blau.vol], 11-10-13 13:47wow....
0.097 pico sec, BEST than any external R based clock . and more important, it is next to the DAC IC. does not like external word clock with close.
From Sound on Sound UK Magazine measurement, all external word clock will degrade the reference ADC's jitter.
to round up it is 10 times better Rhi based clock if the ext. clock is 1.0 pico second accruate.
but the price is ... USD9950.00
cheers!
blau
最後修改時間: 2011-10-13 13:47:54 - #173 [CKL2], 11-10-13 13:32Phase Noise at 1 Hz -85 db
Phase Noise at 10 Hz -110 db
Phase Noise at 1 kHz -120 db
Phase Noise at 10 kHz* -150 db
Guaranteed TIE (jitter down to 1 Hz) .097 psec.
$9950 - #172 [blau.vol], 11-09-14 13:32chester hing, you are correct. that is the reason i am using msb also.
for bitperfect or re-sampling, normally , if the pc/mac (transport) does not do anything and let the msb do the DA conversion , the dynamic will be more. if the pc/mac do the re-sampling, normally, they add their musical character into the music.
that is what I observed during software playback.
it is just my little feeling.
blau.vol - #171 [chester2505], 11-09-13 21:06我認為BitPerfect是否重要我不在乎, 最緊要是還原的聲音是否接近真實, 樂器的音質是否像樣, 音樂感是否豐富,我喜歡MSB DAC 的原因是夠真實在感.
- #170 [blau.vol], 11-09-13 09:34Hi Chester hing,
I am also using both mac & pc.
with my DAC IV (Sig) , I tried cplay & jplay, cplay is a more plain and jplay got more dynamic & music (JPLAY MUST use BEACH mode for output rather than River mode . different sound).
Comparing with my Audirvana & BitPerfect, Decibel on Mac (MacBook with SSD) . Jplay is more vivid & bass got more definition.
To some extends, I agree with Momei hing, using iTunes and change MIDI setting and play direct is NOT a bad idea. more raw and more natural,
just my little sharing.
blau - #169 [dominique], 11-09-13 03:45I am a Mac user and I compared most music players in MacOSX platform.
- Amarra
- Pure Music
- BitPerfect
- Ayrewave
- Audirvana
- Clementine Player
- Decibel
- Fidelia
- Play
- Vox
My best choice is still Amarra and the next choice is Pure Music.
BitPerfect is not as good as the above two but coming really strong as a just release player.
My reference DAC is Medea+ and I also use Wavelength Cosecant V3.
Some c-hing mentioned that these players has their prefer DAC; i.e. mix and match may have different result.
All my files are in AIFF as I use iTune for album management. - #168 [chester2505], 11-09-13 02:49Mac我比錢用過最新版Amarra2.2($5,700), 數碼聲, 蒙茶茶, 軟而無力, 聲音很悶.
也用過免費Audirvana, 自然,生動(我喜歡聽黑膠, 比較喜歡用它)
PC我都用緊Cplay+cMP, 平衡道及定位我覺得是最好的
jpaly分晰力,清晰度及動感很強
我還是喜歡用PC去播歌, 不用煩去轉格式, 而在電腦上我還是覺得PC的娛樂性大過Mac, 放便易用. - #167 [blau.vol], 11-09-11 12:56Hi,
for pacific , they use cplay for playing music. they seldom use Mac.
For me , I tried cplay, jplay, bitperfect , decibel, audiovana pm, amarra....etc , for both pc and my mac.
I still believe JPlay is the best among pc and mac application. I use MP3Toys for album selection.
Cheers!
blau.vol - #166 [dominique], 11-09-11 11:53They use a MacOSX software called BitPerfect and only cost you US$5.49.
Every Mac CAS user should at least invest in this software.
BUt still ......... Amarra is still the best sound MacOSX music player ..... in both my reference and 2nd Audio system. - #165 [chester2505], 11-09-01 16:16
- #164 [at3341], 11-09-01 15:37(一)可在那裏找到該軟體?
(二)用不用錢買?
最後修改時間: 2011-09-01 15:40:30 - #163 [chester2505], 11-09-01 14:46Dear blau.vo1
我收到代理消息, Mac 機itunes都可bit to bit, kHz to kHz output to DAC, 最高可對應到32bit 384kHz, 終於不用手動bit或kHz了在Mac itunes內,更不用買貴的Amarra也可聽原裝的數碼母帶音質了, - 下一頁 (3 of 12)
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